TO ALL ELF. PLEASE READ.

@united_elf & @michELFung

First of all, I read your entire post. I now understand it--but I still completely do not agree with it. Instead you have put Korean ELF in an extremely uncomfortable position where we look like elitists who look down at everyone--that only WE are the center of SJ's world, when in reality that is not even TRUE. Although I can rant to @united_elf in Korean, I'm writing this in English so that International ELF can see that there are Korean ELF who are against this absolutely ridiculous petition, and also prevent more people from being tricked into supporting this horrendous petition.

This post is a response to @michELFung's "Reasons the petition has to rise to the occasion". Each number is respective to the comment I am responding to.

1. You say that we are the consumers and that we are FORCED to buy albums from SM Entertainment. And indeed, we ARE the consumers. But there has never been a time when anyone was forced into buying album. But most of all, your comment on how Henry and Zhoumi participating in SS5 has "disrupted the completeness" of the concert upsets me most. @united_elf consistently says that they take no serious stance on the issue of Henry and Zhoumi, yet you call them "disruptions". Eunhyuk specifically stated at SS5 Singapore that Henry and Zhoumi are family, which I know you are aware of, and that it hurts to see them wait backstage when they only come out for a few songs. Those few songs only give them 30 seconds each to perform their own piece. Then they go backstage.

I know essentially you are fighting for the fact that SS5 should be exclusive to the main members of Super Junior only, but even then, I do not agree. Super Junior-M has the word SUPER JUNIOR in it. Super Junior-M is a SUB-UNIT /of/ Super Junior. They have every right to perform on an SS5 stage. SJ-H, T, Happy, KRY, etc. can all perform on that stage. But SJ-M cannot? All because there are two Chinese members who are not part of the "official" Super Junior?

What is this discrimination and WHY does it matter so much? These are two individuals who have had nothing but an incredible amount of suppression from people LIKE YOU. They don't deserve it. They have done absolutely NO wrong to be casted off of Super Show 5. But being a part of Super Junior-M is not their wrong. And you are condemning them for it.

2. "We have the rights to accept only those we deem as talented and those we like". Oh really? Good for you. Then the other half of the fandom who DO like Henry and Zhoumi and find them talented will continue to support Henry and Zhoumi at the next Super Show 5's. I mean, like you said, it's all in our rights.

The statement you have made is SO contradictory because you are trying to ultimately make sure that Henry and Zhoumi never show up on Super Show 5 again. So what about that other part of the fandom who DO accept Henry and Zhoumi? Where's their voice in this petition? Because honestly, all hear is yours.

So no, you don't get to say that you have "the right" because you are suppressing OUR right to say that we want Henry and Zhoumi to continue to take part in SS5. So your answer is unreasonable and ridiculous.

3. "Objecting SJ from performing SJ-M songs is a job of the SJ-M fans, not ours". Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Because it is QUITE obvious that no one in the SJ-M fandom is going to object from Super Junior performing in SJ-M songs. In fact, it's NOT possible, otherwise there will be only 2 standing members. So your reasoning doesn't stand AT ALL. Your logic is ridiculous and nonsensical. But to be honest, all of your reasons are sadly disputed.

4. And THIS is the response I've been waiting for. And boy, does it suck. I would like you to explain IN DETAIL what hurt will come when the petition is dropped. ELF fighting over the situation of Henry and Zhoumi? Well I'm really sorry to tell you this, but we've been fighting over this for a longggggggg time. The petition just ADDS to that pain. Not only is this whole entire controversy unnecessary, this stupid petition is even MORE unnecessary. You might as well just eradicate the petition and things will just melt into how they were before. Just do us all a favor and give up. If you succeed in this petition, then you will create more damage than ever before.

Super Junior will have to see Zhoumi and Henry FURTHER SUPPRESSED by their OWN FANS. Who needs antis when they have fans like these?

5. Oh wowwwwwww. "Those who support this petition are PURE SAPPHIRE BLUE ELF" oh wowwwww congratulations you're so great do you want an award for it? We're ALL fans of Super Junior and ALL of our blood runs sapphire blue like yours. We ALL care about Super Junior and that doesn't make the supporters of your petition any better. And honestly it doesn't matter who you are or how long you've loved Super Junior, because in the end this petition should be about Super Junior and their feelings. I REFUSE to call you "pure sapphire blue ELF" when you don't even LISTEN to what Super Junior wants and instead listen to what you yourselves want. I find you all just as bad as antis.

I have bought nearly every single album Super Junior has released and I have gone to Super Shows in Seoul, in the States, Super Junior KRY shows in Seoul, the boys' musicals, etc. But my love does not surpass that of a fan who supports Super Junior by heart. Many of us are financially unable to support Super Junior monetarily, but does that mean we love them any less? NO! So no, YOU and I are no better a fan than anyone else in this fandom. But like I said, you don't even listen to Super Junior, so you're not much of a fan anyway.

And your whole comment on how "it doesn't matter if fans leave the fandom because Super Junior will be successful anyway" is just really ignorant. This is NOT about Super Junior being successful. This is about how Super Junior treasures every single one of their fans, and losing even one fan is a loss. You saying "It's okay I don't care you all can leave but Super Junior will still be pulling in a lot of money" is just overall ignorant to the fandom and to Super Junior themselves. Try to think about what you say before you come out and say it.

10. I'm going to skip the rest of everything you have to say because it's all total BS, but I wanted to comment on the ABC fans thing.

First of all, I know normal Super Junior fans who left the stadium whenever Henry and Zhoumi performed. So don't even TRY to pull the whole "Henry and Zhoumi fans leave when Super Junior performs!!111" because the amount of Henry and Zhoumi fans that leave a stadium when Super Junior performs is FAR surpassed by the amount of fans who do the vice versa. And thoughs oem ABC fans may be bashing Eunhyuk for him stating the distinct line between Super Junior and Henry & Zhoumi--other fans are bashing him for being too NICE to Henry and Zhoumi. So to be honest, the bashing is coming both ways. From people like YOU and ABC fans. Therefore you are absolutely no better.

Second of all, you think Super Junior LOSES anything from Henry and Zhoumi performing on-stage with them? They gain more from Super Show 5's then Henry and Zhoumi ever will, and Henry and Zhoumi haven't even participated in every single performance. You think Super Junior, being the people they are, will be angry over sharing the money with 2 members whom they consider FAMILY?

Who do you take Super Junior for, seriously? They are the most giving people I know. Money is an issue for them but never have they been selfish or outward about it. They share and love and perform because they love it. They do it for the love of ELF, but we are giving absolutely nothing in return but a split fandom and a group of elitists like @united_ELF who are ignoring their pleas and instead making up stupid reasons to continue the petition out of thin air.

This petition is HORRENDOUS because it tries to make a trivial subject into a huge deal. You love Super Junior? THEN SUPPORT THEM. When Eunhyuk comes out on-stage (not to mention he is the ONE member who is probably the most known to avoid conflicts whenever possible) and tells you that Super Junior is HURTING because of this petition, and that @united_elf and other people LIKE YOU trying to kick off their FAMILY members from performing on THEIR show--NOT YOUR SHOW--is hurting them, then learn to understand that your petition has done more bad than ANY good. This petition is about kicking two people off of a show just because you want to. Just because you don't think they fit into the "completeness" of Super Junior.

Well tell you what, no matter what I think or you think, I care about what Super Junior thinks. And they WANT Henry and Zhoumi to perform with them. I don't give a single thing about what ELF thinks because I am a fan of Super Junior, and the only way ELF and SJ's relationship can work is if both sides are mutually happy. We only ever TAKE from Super Junior. We need to learn to GIVE. And I don't mean give gifts that cost money--I mean the gift of trust, of happiness, of freedom. They are NOT your puppets, and though they love us, they have told us that they are uncomfortable with this petition. Yet YOU KEEP PUSHING IT. You absolutely fail to understand the consequences of this petition. It's not about a split fandom anymore, it's about how all of this is affecting the people whom matter most in the situation: Super Junior themselves.

You think SM added Henry and Zhoumi into a handful of songs at SS5 and Super Junior groaned about it? NO! Of course not! And it is obvious from Eunhyuk that they LIKE having Henry and Zhoumi there. YOU are SUPER JUNIOR'S fan. YOU do things FOR THEM. You are SELFISH for doing this for yourselves. Think about Super Junior for one second and realize that you are not only tearing up one of the strongest fandoms in the world. You are tearing up a bond between Super Junior and ELF. Because half of the fandom isn't even listening to what our babies want. They're only listening to what they themselves want.

And when that happens, and everything is said and done, it will all absolutely be your fault.

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